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The Bo & Luke Show®️
#230 - From HR Big Cheese to People Champion
On this episode of The Bo & Luke Show, we sit down with Mike Fromm, Chief Human Resources Officer at Shaw Industries, to talk about building a career, a culture, and a legacy that matter.
With over 30 years at Shaw, Mike has seen it all—growth, challenges, transformations—and through it all, one theme has remained constant: business is all about people.
🔥 Inside this Episode You’ll Learn:
🔹 Culture is Your Brand
Mike explains why a company’s internal culture isn’t just an HR topic—it’s the foundation of customer experience and brand reputation.
🔹 The Five Promises to Employees
At Shaw, every associate is guaranteed inclusivity, empowerment, accountability, voice, and the freedom to take risks. Mike shares how these promises have shaped Shaw’s success and how any organization can adopt them.
🔹 Measuring Real Culture
Forget the slogans on the wall—Mike shares why you should measure culture by walking your floors and looking people in the eyes. Are they engaged? Do they feel like they belong?
🔹 Career Growth and Opportunity
Shaw is known for promoting from within and encouraging employees to try new roles. Mike shares how career mobility fuels retention, innovation, and long-term loyalty.
🔹 Wellbeing as a Business Strategy
From mental health to safety and nutrition, Shaw has doubled down on employee wellbeing. Mike shows why organizations that invest in their people see the biggest returns in productivity and engagement.
💬 Favorite Quotes:
- “Business doesn’t happen except through people. People and business are one and the same.”
- “Your internal culture is your external brand.”
- “If you don’t feel safe and valued, you won’t use your voice or take risks.”
🎯 Why Listen?
Whether you’re a business leader, entrepreneur, or just someone chasing personal growth, this episode will inspire you to think differently about leadership and culture. Mike’s journey at Shaw proves that building people-first organizations isn’t just good for employees—it’s essential for business success.
🎧 Listen now to discover practical, powerful lessons from one of the longest-tenured HR executives in corporate America.